I'm considering buying a Samsung Galaxy S9 (2018) or Huawei P20 pro (2018) or a Xiaomie 9se (2019). The security updates are important to me. In your opinion, which of the smartphones will be used longer with security updates?
I think Samsung. They now have almost only a 1 year update policy, but only in relation to the Android version.
Xiaomi would be a second choice. Often had some. If there are no more updates, you can easily install a custom rom that is up to date.
Huawei too insecure grade.
Common sense, the Mi 9 SE. But why are you so keen on security updates? As long as you don't root the smartphone or install apps from unknown sources, these are irrelevant in my opinion.
Most security updates only bring bug fixes, which you will certainly never notice. Small security holes are of course also closed, but in order to exploit them, the attacker usually has to have your smartphone for a while.
If you really value security updates and are still looking for a comparatively cheap smartphone, have a look at Nokia and Motorola. They also build good smartphones and bring out security updates almost simultaneously with Google.
I generally advise against the Mi 9 SE, since many devices delivered there have the ghosttouch problem.
This is the order of the manufacturers for the update supply
Apple
Google Pixel and Nexus
OnePlus
Huawei and Honor
Samsung
Motorola and Lenovo
Sony
LG
HTC
Alcatel
Gigaset
Wiko
https://curved.de/news/smartphone-updates-welche-hersteller-handys-gut-versorgen-653861
Samsung grants two years on major updates and 3 years on security updates. Likewise Huawei and Xiaomi.
What is the order? Who brings security updates fastest? Then the order is for the most valuable.
Apart from the fact that Apple does not really bring security updates, companies have been forgotten here and companies ranked too high, should it really be a list of the update distribution.
I would delete Apple entirely. And then I would split the list like this.
Google Pixel and Nexus
Nokia
Motorola
Samsung
HUAWEI / HONOR
Xiaomi
OnePlus
LG
Sony
Gigaset
Alcatel
HTC
Wiko
My list is based on experiences from my professional and hobby area. I think the list of Curved is nonsense.
And I have a whole other list:
3.2 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Google /
2.5 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / OnePlus /
1.6 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / General + Mobile /
1.6 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Samsung /
1.6 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Sony /
1.5 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Nokia /
1.4 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / HTC /
1.4 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Razer /
1.3 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Asus /
1.3 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Huawei /
1.2 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Xiaomi /
1.1 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Motorola /
1.0 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / LGE /
1.0 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / TCL /
1.0 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / bq /
0.9 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Sharp /
0.9 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / zebra /
0.8 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Kyocera /
0.8 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Lenovo /
0.8 https://www.aosmark.com / oem / Redmi /
https://www.aosmark.com
And which is the right one? 😂
The list is based on information from the Stiftung Warentest, which has observed this over a long period of time and has not read from the coffee grounds as you apparently do not care what you think is nonsense, that was not the subject of the question, and you are there too not the measure of all things!
However, this does not apply to all devices. Nowadays it is hardly possible to make a satisfactory statement regarding the update policy. Many factors are included, e.g. Distribution area, sales figures, publication etc.
For example, it is very noticeable at Samsung.
Stiftung Warentest. All right. I have been working with smartphones for years, always have at least 2 handfuls of smartphones lying here. I didn't read anything on the coffee grounds. These are my own experiences.
Alone the OnePlus is a farce. Firstly, OnePlus only brings security updates every two to 3 months, unless you use the Beta at Oxygen.
Nokia, on the other hand, brings its security updates monthly, usually only 2 to 3 days to Google with their Pixel devices. After that comes Motorola (without Lenovo, because there are hardly any updates).
Huawri and honor also bring the updates quickly, although Huawei is a bit better.
Xiaomi usually brings updates faster than OnePlus. And more reliable. Both companies actually have a two-month cycle, although OnePlus sometimes missed it. Like the last OP 7 (T) update, for example.
All smartphone manufacturers that I have listed after that bring security updates rather every 3 months or take even longer.
I also arranged my updates a bit according to how long major releases (betas excluded) are distributed.
If we take Android and iOS, Apple should be at the top, as these bring updates for 4 years. Google usually brings 3 years of major release updates. Likewise Nokia. From Motorola, it starts with 2 years, or rather 2 major releases, and that continues through to OnePlus.
Everything that comes behind OnePlus in my list usually gets a major release. If any. Most of my list is based on the flagships of the manufacturers, since the Mit-Range and Löw budget devices are usually much worse supplied with updates.
Huawei is currently improving there, but it is the only manufacturer where I see improvement in these areas at the moment.
Just as small examples. I currently have a number of smartphones here and most of them are in (test) operation. Among other things, smartphones from Xiaomi, OnePlus, Gigaset, Huawei, Honor, Samsung, Lenovo and some China brands that I do not deal with here.
The Galaxy Note 9 launched Android 8 two years ago. It has now had Android 10 and its second major update for around two months. In addition, it still gets the latest security updates every month, quite promptly according to Google. Even the Galaxy Note 8 and Galaxy S9 (which I sold last month) got their patches every month.
The OnePlus 7t and OnePlus 7 Pro, both devices I have here, one of them my Daily Driver, had their penultimate security patch in December 2019. The security patch was from November 5, 2019. The last update came on February 16, with security patch level from January 01, 2020.
Then I have a Lenovo Z6 Pro here. Launched in the middle of last year. So far, no major release has been received and the security status is October 5, 2019.
Also two devices I have here are the Honor 8X Max and Huawei Mate 30 Pro. The 8X Max is a bit older now. From September 2019. Last update came in July with security patch from July. After that nothing came. So no more updates just 10 months after the release. The security update, which should actually come in November 2019, has not yet reached my device.
However, the Mate 30 Pro gets its updates monthly. And I think it will be supplied for a long time, because the Mate 20 Pro is also supplied monthly.
So much for the coffee grounds reading. In contrast to Stiftung Warentest, I'm at the source. I've also been working intensively on cell phones, smartphones, tablets and everything that goes with them for around 23 years. I dare to say that my list is more accurate than the results of Stiftung Warentest.
Just for info. Part of my job is to check smartphones and to send them to the repair shop in charge of a defect. Many smartphones remain with me as loan devices for the customer. As long as these are lying here I use them and also test them, especially because I want to keep the battery in operation whenever possible to prevent deep discharge. Hence my experiences with updates and everything else that smartphones have to do.
Usually, if you want to do it right, you should make 5 lists.
One for major updates
One for security updates
One for security updates duration
One for beta updates
One for Costum Roms
And yes, I'm not the measure of all things, but I dare to say that I have more experience and knowledge in the field of smartphones than any testers from Stiftung Warentest and any editors from Curved who also use these lists. I mean, Curved itself gets enough smartphones from manufacturers and retailers, so why not have a list of girls and use the one from Stiftung Warentest? Because here it's like me. Stiftung Warentest is not the measure of all things.
I totally agree with you. Well. Not quite. I think you can tell better at Huawei. Although Huawei has now also improved the update supply for cheap devices.
Yes, that's true
That's what I call full-time narcissism, you obviously can't accept other opinions at all, and again you deny the Stiftung Warentest any competence and consider yourself the measure of all things! You kill one here with a lot of text that nobody cares and that has little substance.
No, I do not deny the Stiftung Warentest every competence, but Stiftung Warentest tests under laboratory conditions. After that, the cell phones usually disappear in the warehouse and are only taken out once in a while. You can also buy seals from Stiftung Warentest. That shows your competence.
If you had read my text, you would have seen that it has substance. In the end I gave examples of why I think my list is more correct. For example, the Huawei is currently improving on updates for cheaper smartphones.
But well, then I'll slay you again with a long text. Maybe you read it. Because in the end you also read why it has nothing to do with narcissism.
I have the devices running every day. See when updates come in and install them. I have all the devices in one place. However, Stiftung Warentest is testing the cell phones together with consumer organizations from Belgium, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and some Scandinavian countries.
Stiftung Warentest has tested 294 smartphones since 2014. I had around 400 smartphones at home at work last year alone. Many of them also tested for functionality and also pulled updates. Since I was 14, which is 23 years ago, I have been able to call almost 900 smartphones my own. So these were really my own devices.
Before I became self-employed, I worked at Vodafone and Telekom, also tested and wrote about smartphone services in smartphone service and for various technology blogs. I was also admin of Handy-FAQ.de for a while
While Stiftung Warentest has been testing things in various areas, I have been doing nothing but working with cell phones, smartphones, tablets and laptops for 23 years. So much for the skills. Last year I started my own business in this area and made my long hobby into my job.
So this has absolutely nothing to do with narcissism when I stand over a list from Stiftung Warentest and say that my skills in relation to smartphones are probably higher and I can help the questioner with his question better than a list of Curved, by Stiftung Warentest was taken over.
If you are still of the opinion that I'm not competent enough, then give me sensible counter-arguments that you post the best here via copy & paste what you can find when looking for smartphone updates.
You are a gossip, who clearly refutes your statement about One Plus, for example, but clearly they have no idea, you have not even been able to substantiate any of your details!
https://www.watson.ch/!317554567
https://www.androidpit.de/android-updates-diese-hersteller-pflegen-ihre-smartphones-am-besten
https://www.mobildiscounter.de/blog/stiftung-warentest-das-sind-die-top-5-smartphone-hersteller/
