Are Huawei and Samsung better than Iphone?

So
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By that I mean cell phones, of course.

Ab

A matter of taste, every manufacturer has its advantages and disadvantages. If you have only Apple at home, if not Android then, or just what you can better serve.

I can also ask what is better, Audi or Mercedes? (…)

sa

Always depends on the needs.

as far as I know, i have phones linux systems. I do not like linux that much and i've shot myself more on android.

I'm also a big google play user and apple or the i phones probably have their own market with fewer apps.

advantage of i phone is that even older models will be updated for years.

and they are well protected against theft.

Therefore, the devices are synonymous sometimes a lot more expensive, I think the housing synonymous something of high quality.

I myself switched from samsung to huawei and so far very happy.

for me, the price performance ratio top here, they are fast, I think they are chic and find the emui surface very handy. Especially the app with which you can optimize the phone. Can also technically great with the more expensive models compete.

The more expensive Huawei is a Leica camera installed, which is great if you are on good photos.

I used to like samsung in the past, but I do not like it anymore, because the battery has always run out of steam for me and these tens of thousands of pre-installed apps that you do not need or can't erase have annoyed me.

jo, these are my experiences worthwhile.mm enough the current huaweis from the p series perfect, even in the lite version.

sa
Fa

Yes, especially in comparison to the price-performance ratio. I often compare cell phones, which of course I did when I bought my current mobile phone. It strikes me again and again that the technical data of far cheaper mobile phones are usually much better. In addition, I find it synonymous an impudence that you have to buy in the meantime often accessories in addition, such as the Apple. The headphones were the case recently. As far as the processed materials are concerned, one usually has the same materials used by all companies. Apple phones are still broken faster than other devices. And, which is also not so great at Apple, the fact that one is always set on Apple, while one can easily switch between different companies on Android. Considering how expensive an IPHONE is to manufacture, the price you pay for it is just rip-off. All in all, Apple products are generally worse than other products and you only pay for the name. Even if the fanboys see things differently, that's just the way it is.

Oh, and one more important reason why I would not buy an iPhone, is that Apple is one of the largest crime companies in the world. But that does not matter to most people anyway, as most people just want to consume, no matter what the consequences of this consumption.

ca

In the Linux part, you are exactly wrong.

Jo

Android is a Linux distribution and iOS has a customized Unix kernel for the special processor architecture.

Jo

Your text sounds more like Fanboy Gelabere than factual facts

ca

Jo, that's exactly how it is.

Fa

However, I have mentioned facts.

Jo

In addition, I find it synonymous an impudence that you have to buy in the meantime often accessories in addition, such as the Apple. The headphones were the case recently

No fact, no source

Apple phones are still broken faster than other devices.

My toaster lasts longer than an iPhone hurray.

And, which is also not great at Apple, is the fact that you're always on Apple,

So at Apple, you commit to Apple. At Samsung, I'm synonymous to Samsung. Also has no Android stick.

while you can easily switch between different companies on Android

On the subject of backup you should inform yourself again. Since iOS is much further than 90% of the Android companies (Google except pixel)

Considering how expensive an IPHONE is to manufacture, the price you pay for it is just rip-off

Why should that be rip off now? Because other manufacturers can sell cheaper? Some expect reliability and because you take just a few more euro in the hand. For an iPhone 7 you pay no more 500 euro.

Oh yes, the iPhone 5s (from 2013) even gets the latest iOS 12 update. Does that get a Samsung Galaxy S4 from the year also?

All in all, Apple products are generally worse than other products and you only pay for the name.

Of course you pay the name, just like Samsung, Huawei and co. If you want to go cheap get a Motorola, Nokia, Honor, there the name is cheap.

Oh, and one more important reason why I would not buy an iPhone, is that Apple is one of the largest crime companies in the world

If it is alone because of the price, then it is quite sad. Of course, Apple is no longer perfect as it was at Steve Jobs times. From the quality and the reliability I put it with the pixel Handy on a level, but even with the pixel 2 XL one came not cheaper than it was introduced. So for you would be Huawei and Samsung and co. No crime companies just because everything is produced cheaply? Alright.

Well I do not care, I use a Pixel 2XL and am more than satisfied.

Fa

"No fact, no source"

Did not you notice that? In one of the last iPhone models, the headphones were not included in the scope and had to be purchased separately for a relatively large amount of money. Was often reported in various media.

"My toaster lasts longer than an iPhone hurray."

You do not need to draw that ridiculous. That was of course related to other phones. I've heard that again and again in various programs on the subject. I think 40 times faster or so, but am no longer sure of the exact number.

By setting and changing, it was meant that at Apple, e.g. On whose operating system is fixed or e.g. The ports on the phone are all set to Apple, while Android smartphones are all standardized and so you can switch relatively easily between many different companies.

"Why should that be rip off now? Because other manufacturers can sell cheaper? Some expect reliability and just take a few extra euro in hand. For an iPhone 7 you pay no more 500 euro."

That's rip-off for two reasons. First, as I wrote above, significantly cheaper cell phones often have significantly better specifications than the respective IPhones, which are then sold for the thousand or even more. In other words, you often pay Apple for less a higher price. So much for Zuführlässigkeit. And second, because the manufacturing costs are much lower than the selling prices. Since I have also seen an interesting documentation on the subject. For various older IPhones, which then cost well over 900 euro +, then e.g. Cost of production at 100 euro roughly located. At the current iPhone, these costs are so roughly at 500 euro and this is now sold for more than 1000 euro and then something is just rip-off, especially considering that you get better from other manufacturers for much less money. Apple could use the phones, e.g. Even for 100 euro more than the manufacturing costs are, offer and would then still take more for such an iPhone than it has spent on its production.

And the name. Do you think it's okay to pay for the name of a product and not for its features?

How exactly do you come to the fact that this is related to the crime company on the price?

Ok, the Pixel 2 xl is also a good phone, which is also an example of getting good and better technology for less money.

sa

Yes, I was not 100% sure synonymous:-) the operation is a bit different than android, I had seen at a friend times and I was a little strange:-) thanks for the info! Lg

Jo

The new iPhone still has headphones.

The iPhone X is still faster than the fastest Snapdragon 845

iOS: https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks/

Android: https://browser.geekbench.com/android-benchmarks/

Many manufacturers move away from Google and therefore always make their custom OS on it. Why this is so, you can look here at the example of Samsung:

Only Nieschenbrands like Motorola, Nokia, OnePlus put on stick. But as the crowd moves away from it (except geeks), the manufacturers do their own thing to get customers back on the ball

Incidentally, the Pixel 2XL in the small 64GB variant had a price of $ 849 (mind you, mind you), the 128GB version for a staggering $ 950.

Source: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-pixel-2/

And last but not least the production costs. You've come up with a lot of numbers, but in the end you pay for more than just the pure production costs.

Do other manufacturers also have a store where you can repair their cell phones like in the Apple Store?

Do you get updates for your mobile phones from Huawei and co for 5 years?

Well the name: I think that's not okay, of course I would rather pay for performance. But in this case I find totally justified for what you invested in Apple. And I could tell you 100 things why business people prefer to rely on expensive brands like Apple or Samsung instead of budget brands like Honor or Xiaomi.

Finally, you are one of the people who only have the datasheet and compare by benchmarks and do not see the real value in life.

Gaming laptop for 800 euro or business note with less power for 2300 euro?

With you certainly the gaming laptop.

Fa

The new iPhone still has headphones.

Did you read my comment? Apparently not, otherwise you would have noticed that I have not written about the new Iphone. The model was one of the last, released last year or so, you can google it if you do not believe it.

In the following, you barely go into what I wrote.

The iPhone X is still faster than the fastest Snapdragon 845

Tell me you can't read?! The 40 times faster was related to the broken. Why do not you read what I write, otherwise it makes no sense at all.

And last but not least the production costs. You've come up with a lot of numbers, but in the end you pay for more than just the pure production costs.

I did not come up with any numbers. Stop with any insinuations. As I said before, I have already seen one or two reports about Apple and have just learned the corresponding figures. Here e.g. Times a quote from Chip: "The production costs of the previous year model should have amounted to only 190 euro., In addition, the selling price has fallen, because Apple demanded for the 128 GB version of the iPhone 6S still 959 euro…"

That is, manufacturing costs of less than 200 euro are compared to a retail price of almost 1000 euro, which had even fallen.

And to your questions. Other companies also have jobs where you can hand in your cell phones, and even if you do not, you do not need them because you can have cell phones repaired directly from the markets where you purchased them.

And no idea how long but Huawei can also get updates for the phones.

"But in that case, I find it completely justified for what you invest in Apple."

Ok at least in that point we agree, but in the sentence I would like to know why you find it justified, despite the performance is worse? And there just remains to say that other manufacturers offer just more for less money.

Oh yes, and my question about the crime company you have not received.

Jo

Did you read my comment? Apparently not, otherwise you would have noticed that I have not written about the new Iphone. The model was one of the last, released last year or so, you can google it if you do not believe it.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-iPhone-8---8-Plus-unboxing_id98321

Last year there was the iPhone 8, 8 plus and X. All had headphones. Counterexample please.

Tell me you can't read?! The 40 times faster was related to the broken. Why do not you read what I write, otherwise it makes no sense at all.

https://bgr.com/2018/07/18/new-iphones-2018-specs-gorilla-glass-6-corning/

This year it has Gorilla Glass 6, the last years it was actually just a normal glass sandwich.

And to your questions. Other companies also have jobs where you can hand in your cell phones, and even if you do not, you do not need them because you can have cell phones repaired directly from the markets where you purchased them.

Not international
Usually longer repair times (1-2 weeks sometimes with shipping)
Most of the time you do not speak directly to the technician, but to some sellers who then resend it. (Of course not always, but that's usually the case in the media markets and co)

And no idea how long but Huawei can also get updates for the phones.

The Huawei P9 from 2016 gets no more updates and it only came to Android 7 Nougat. So 1 year software support.

Ok at least in that point we agree, but in the sentence I would like to know why you find it justified, despite the performance is worse? And there just remains to say that other manufacturers offer just more for less money.

It is undeniable that Apple demands more than the competition. Therefore, this is popularly stamped as Apple tax. Apple is also a brand that does not focus on the Specs. Those are enough 4GB of RAM or a 3xxx mAh battery to be competitive. But what you get at Apple (and no other manufacturer) first-class support, worldwide and mostly reliable (I've had some bad experiences with the Apple Store in the past, but in most cases, I was satisfied)

Oh yes, and my question about the crime company you have not received.

iPhone too expensive? Then you are just the wrong target group. This includes people who do not spend much time discussing and looking for specs, but a brand they can trust. 1000 euro are nothing for these people.
For people like you, there are Huawei and OnePlus. Great specs, cheap price. Finished.

The same applies, for example, to Dell as a notebook manufacturer. Expensive but you can trust it.

Jo

What I do not understand is this narrow-mindedness. Do you then call Audi as a crime company and celebrate then Ford or Renault, because the same Specs offer at lower prices.

Apple has its raison d'être long considered an innovation driver of technology (not anymore). Everyone should decide what they like. Competition drives the market and I think that's a good thing. I find iPhones consistently solid and have already had some, but currently I prefer to swear on the Google series and I'm looking forward to the Pixel 3XL.

Regardless, I end the discussion. Have fun, I just wanted to represent my point of view and of course no Apple haters to offend.

Fa

Here's a little link from chip to the delivery and enormous costs.

https://www.google.de/...layout=amp

And yes you probably get a good customer service. However, this is not always the case. Since I have heard of negative experiences, as with other companies too. So you can get good service at Apple as with other companies too and you can get bad service at Apple as with other companies too.

Well and a good service does not justify it in my opinion that you can then offer smartphones with less ability at much higher prices.

And again: I wrote that I do not look at Apple for the prices as a crime company, but because of other things that Apple does.

Narrow mindedness… That's unbelievable. I'll give you some facts here, and I've partially documented them, and you're not going to focus on what I wrote you in the last few comments.

And I've just held my point while you've been acting the whole time as though you're personally attacked.