Phones just a rumor?

Gr
8

Is there something that some friends say that certain mobile developer manufacturer machiner etc with the intention of making mobile phones so that they give up after a certain time of about 2 years or shortly after expiration of the guarantee with the intention of mind? I could not turn on my old huawei after two whole years from one day to the next, even though it was ok before, what's the matter?

Br

For mobile phones, I have not had the case yet. Since most manufacturers rather put on the fact that they bring out new devices so fast that many people do not want to do without the features of the latest devices after two years and just buy a new one.

With printers and especially with the Organizern, which existed at that time (small calculator-similar devices, with which one could plan appointments and save telephone numbers) this happened to me already. Especially with the organizers, it can't have been a coincidence. The first one broke down only a few months after the warranty period, the second one broke down about two months before the end of the warranty period, could then be repaired by the manufacturer and then broke down exactly one day after the end of the warranty period. Or. Broken is maybe the wrong word. The devices simply could not be switched on anymore.

And in fact, the devices used to last much longer. My grandparents have e.g. Another old tape recorder in the closet with which they have taken my father when he was a child. The part is still working perfectly and is at least 50 years old

Se

Hand on the heart: why should companies strive and produce products that last longer than the majority of customers really want?

With the smartphone, however, the number of charging cycles plays a role, which can range from 300 to 2,000 cycles, depending on the operation.

Br

If the charging cycles are "used up", but you can change the battery and continue to use the phone anyway. This even works for cell phones where you can't officially replace the battery. You just should not try if they are still waterproof.

Sp

I have experienced the same phenomenon several times and meanwhile it has been proven that electronic components are manipulated. There's no problem in computer electronics to set a counter on the end of the guarantee or to make material out of materials that will leach and break after a certain amount of time and use.

Se

Part of the clientele would like to have a new smartphone when the battery is empty. And if not, then always free of charge the latest Android. Since avarice is just still cool and subsidized hardware is exchanged even at an annual rate.

Whereby modern software leads additionally to the fact that some newer app does not run any more or only much slower on the older systems. I can understand you well, but the companies follow the wishes of the clientele.

Smaller and smaller designs can be technically and commercially only meaningfully achieved if you do without the replacement. Otherwise, you just buy a device in which the battery is removable, our old S3 Mini is such an old case. Runs for a few years, but is used only occasionally.

Especially since planned obsolescence is not so easy: from https://nachhaltig-sein.info/lebensweise/geplante-obsoleszenz-mythen-fakten-programmierter-defekt

"Conclusion

The question of planned obsolescence is difficult to answer. Overall, there's no fully convincing evidence that products are intentionally damaged in order to shorten their lifecycle - even if there are some indications that point in this direction. Rather, consumers' buying habits must be taken into account, which as a rule does not focus on longevity and sustainability. This and often high competition in the market mean that new products are being developed faster and faster, with increasingly cheaper but also more vulnerable materials being used. At the same time, however, consumers often do not use their possessions until they are broken, but instead exchange them for new ones. The industry favors this by B. No support for old models takes place and independent repairs are made more difficult. "

Br

Still, I would not necessarily talk about planned obsolescence in this case. Batteries are consumables. Deciding on the latest features for a new smartphone instead of a battery replacement does not mean the old smartphone will not work anymore.

However, if - as in my example with the organizers - the device can't be turned on after the warranty period, and even a new battery does not work, then there's a high chance that it's really planned obsolescence.

Se

For example, how many of this type were built, and how many of them did that effect? If you have reliable numbers, then you can keep thinking in that direction.

Br

Of course I can't answer that. I just had the two organizers that I found it conspicuous, especially because the one just a day after the warranty period has given up the ghost again. After that, I avoided the company.